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Little test with max Space Warps (into 3DSMax depths)
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22 Sep 2010Hi, scg people.
While at my ongoing quest of exploring max depths (with a help of book "Max 8 Encyclopedia), I once again stumbled upon maybe some old but still quite effective tools. I hadn't been much a visitor into corner of Space warps.
Just decided I share this little video showing recent test I did. Actually, you can do pretty interesting stuff with ordinary max particles with a help of those space warp forces. Little bit practice, patience and imagination and I see how one can make quite interesting moves. What you think people of this? Anyone used them much?
http://vimeo.com/15134107 -
22 Sep 2010Yep, they're an integral part of any particle workflow
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23 Sep 2010Me and my lousy knowledge of max particles
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26 Sep 2010you really have to try out pflow in max (particle flow) not sure if it is already included in max 8 but it will open up your eyes
you can do very cool stuff within minutes!
https://www.cg-academy.net/es_catalog/i ... r3rloob0d5
this particle flow tutorial is pretty expensive but is the best pflow tutorial series i could found. -
05 Oct 2010I took time and learn a bit pflow on basic level. Played around with some animation and was about to share my little experiment but I encountered one problem
Got stuck. Help would be appreciated.
I rendered everything in three sequences (I have three camera shots) of rpf format with a Z-Depth checked in settings.
There is also DOF effect present in two shots. When renders were done here was what I got (see image attached).
Some noise around all my objects following sort of a scene outline.
I see the same artifacts when importing rpf into Fusion 6 (64bit).
During rendering in max on screen everything looked fine, no noise outline. Anyone knows, what a heck happened?
What I missed or did wrong? -
sanyilajos 58 posts05 Oct 2010I never used rpf. But try using 16 or 32 bit per channel , instead of 8. That may help. -
06 Oct 2010@sanyilajos
I gave a try to go with rpf 32bit per channel. Here is what I got.
3DSMax screen showing everything is fine while render.
And here what I got once I import my rpf into Fusion.
Noise became smaller and less evident. Display quality in Fusion is set to HQ. Lighting is also weaker. Still something is wrong.
I already started to render into png sequences and they work fine. No artifacts. -
07 Oct 2010rpf can't handle anti aliased z depth channel. so the jaggedness will never go away except you trick it away in the post.
i would suggest you use open exr. its pretty cool since you can even create your own channels and depending on the renderer you will get a anti aliased zdepth (final render supports it)
(although afx is not very good with open exr. it can read it but its very cumbersome to use since you have to set up every channel separately for r/g/b .) -
15 Oct 2010So, I see - openExr is the way to go than. I wasn't aware of rpf's z-depth issues.
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20 Oct 2010Okay. Here are results I came up with in this little experiment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MKegTeO8Dc
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sanyilajos 58 posts21 Oct 2010A bit of MR flickering. But otherwise its nice, reminds me of an alien planet with strange plants.
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21 Oct 2010Yes, some flickering going on out there. I think it has something to do with caustics. I set them on for this scene and didn't actually tweaked settings,photon stuff and other things properly. Just threw them in.
There will be in a time my next experiment with water, some waves, particles and caustics with some animation. -
sanyilajos 58 posts22 Oct 2010Good caustics will be very processor intensive.
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25 Oct 2010Yea, they will bite my computer. But still I will look if I can handle them. In my next little test project water will be only secondary but I am looking into ways of getting into next level anyway. In this piece foliage movements lacks one serious transform - rotation. Seems they only move up and down whereas one CG artist pointed me on wikipage of water dynamics. There is also rotation going on. Need to figure out how to introduce that moment when doing next experiment.
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